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Posted: 01 December 2007 02:14 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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With a 64 rating, the iPhone is CU’s #1 smart phone. How ya like them Apples?

They rate movels by Verizon Wireless, Sprint Nextel, T-Mobile, and AT&T;, plus a different category for smart phones. No Verizon Wireless or Sprint Nextel phones get as high a rating. CU rates one T-Mobile model more highly than and one as highly as the iPhone. AT&T;, interestingly, scores two higher and two as highly.

This means that out of a grand total of 60 phones that CU reviewed by all carriers and in all categories, only three phone beat the iPhone and three more matched it.

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Posted: 01 December 2007 02:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Is that available online or is it just their most recent tree version?

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Posted: 01 December 2007 03:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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The critical elements appear to be available online, but only by subscription. I was working from a print copy.

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Posted: 01 December 2007 11:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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CR’s online edition (non-subscription) has quite a bit of information about the iPhone. One of the pieces seems to poke at AT&T;as Apple’s carrier of choice.

That brings up set of interesting questions. 1- How does AT&T;’s cell phone service and their EDGE network compare to Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile and friends. 2 - Did Apple make the right choice by sticking with AT&T;?

Through the years I’ve used AT&T;, Verizon, and Sprint. Not T-Mobile. I have friends and co-workers who’ve used two or three of the four. Some have a favorite, others say it doesn’t matter because they’re all about the same, and a few have a cell phone carrier they hate for one reason or another. No single cell phone carrier sticks out as best, none as worst.

My own experience supports that. AT&T;is OK. So was Sprint. So was Verizon. You either get a good signal or you don’t. One thing about AT&T;is that they’re in more cities and areas, especially along interstate highways, than their competitors. EDGE seems to work in more areas, too, but that’s just my experience with multiple carriers and many different phones.

Did Apple make the right choice to go with AT&T;? Based on AT&T;being the largest carrier, with the EDGE network deployed in more locations than Sprint, Verizon, and friends, probably so, personal experience not withstanding.

3G is highly overrated-- right now. Nobody I know with a 3G has been happy with the experience. Battery life is dismal. Connection areas are very limited. The cell phone’s that have 3G built in are so clumsy to use that whatever extra speed is gained does not improve the number one feature a phone should have-- ease of use of said features. The web browsing experience sucks badly, and the price tag some of the cell phone carriers put on their streaming media borders on gouging.

Though anything but fast, probably two or three times faster than dial-up, on average, EDGE does mail great, and most web sites pop up just fine. But slow.  WiFi is wonderful, and note that WiFi is not available in most 3G cell phones yet.

Looks to me as thought Apple had to walk through a dense forrest filled with wild animals to reach the ‘sweet spot’ to launch the iPhone.

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Posted: 01 December 2007 03:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Verizon Wireless people will tell you that they turned Apple down. I mean, everyone in the company knows this, which makes me think no one knows anything (I worked for them, as a contract employee, for over seven months). Apple, according to someone who worked at Apple, had spent three years working with AT&T;on this phone, so the odds than any company turned Appple down for lack of 3G support are pretty slim.

EDGE is slower than 3G, but more so on paper than in reality. Give me two bars on 3G, and I will take four bars in the same location on EDGE, as the latter will be faster a good deal of the time (yay, packet loss!). Lack of Wi-Fi on most phones (see ads for the new Shadow to see how important Wi-Fi is) leaves them way behind the iPhone, at least when in major cities. Out here in the Seattle area, we are packed with Tullys (a local competitor for area companies Starbucks, Seattle’s Best, Terrafazione, Stewart Brothers, almost all of which are really Starbucks anyway) coffee shops that all offer free Wi-Fi (and, as the original banner along the I-5 read, “Not Willy"). Given that Tullys makes Starbucks come off as a giant company with hiring practices and a training program that join to leave customers with mediocre company, my wife and I prefer our coffee com from the big T. This means Wi-Fi access. Zip!

Comparing companies is a tricky business. When Verizon Wireless claims to have the “Nation’s most reliable network,” there is plenty of evidence to back it up. Every company sends out dozens of test vehicles with banks of phones plugged in and talking to other phones in other test vehicles. The quality of the calls is measured by the clarity of a set of linguist-created sentences called the Hardvard Sentences (see this article for more, noting, in particular, the second left inset). Verizon Wireless does actually score the best in this. Unfortunately, some large patches of the U.S. are entirely off of the VZW coverage map (and probably off of every other major carrier’s maps too). Where you live, where you work, and where you travel are all important in determining which service you should get, and even then the phone plays a huge role in your reception (our RAZRs are better than the garbage LG phones we had for a couple weeks and better than our V60 and V60-S phones).

Jobs announce 3G as part of the original iPhone roadmap, but you are right, battery consumption is an issue. I have to say that I am a bit surprised, though. It is possible to set up a simple bypass, leaving the 3G chip entirely unpowered when not wanted or needed. The old analog/digital/best-signal switching is not exactly the same thing, but if you wanted a longer battery life in those days, you used anything but dual sensitivity.

Anyway, my greater point is this. The iPhone, which was getting cautious reviews, full of praise with caveats, in CR, is pretty close to tops across the lists, and it is leading its category.

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Posted: 01 December 2007 05:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Other phones may edge out the iPhone on some benchmark test or other, but the iPhone is all about the interface, the integration, the whole experience, something Consumer Reports is absolutely blind to. I stopped paying any attention to what they said on any subject about 30 years ago, when they rated the new Dodge Omni and Plymouth Horizon “Unacceptable.” Why? Because when you’re barreling down the road at 50 miles an hour with your hands off the wheel, then suddenly reach out, jerk the wheel 90 degrees and release it again, the car will “oscillate and eventually run off the road.” This shows how much they know about driving, and they’re similarly reliable on other subjects. (They once rated a TV that was best by their own criteria “Unacceptable” because the knobs were too easy to swallow (!))

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Posted: 02 December 2007 08:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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It might be worth noting that the criteria for those phones outside of the smartphone category are slightly different than any phone that got a higher rating. Furthermore, the iPhone does have some serious shortcomings in certain areas, at least when compared to phones that are designed to achieve similar tasks.

Having said all that, whether or not one cares about CR ratings is rather not the issue here. The point that I was making with my original post was that those ratings do exist and that the iPhone won its category, beating, on the 100-point scale used for all products in CR ratings, nearly every phone in every category and with every carrier.

Heck, I am still trying to work out whether Gatesbasher is down on the iPhone, backing it, or indifferent and simply bashing CR here, but I generally don’t go hold for poisoning the well argumentation.

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Posted: 09 December 2007 02:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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I have at&t;and have been due for a phone upgrade for two years now. I have kept putting it off until last week. I bought the nokia 6126 and I love it but I have only had it for a few days now. I am already bored with the idea I have a camera on my phone , big deal. yeah it has some options like four different emails such as, yahoo,msn,aim and one more that I can’t think of off hand. I can’t hook it up to use my .Mac e-mail account. I think I already have another phone to throw on the self to collect dust,maybe I will donate it. I think i am going to give in and go buy the Iphone,I mean why not I have a Mac Pro Desk Top and Mac/Book to go with it, only makes sense to me. The only problem I have is that I know the second I go buy the Iphone, Apple will release a better version. I have been holding off in the Iphone because I did not want to buy the 1st generation of it. When I bought my Mac Pro twin Intel processor (4 cores) a few months later they released the quad processors intel (8-cores) that pissed me off. And that is my luck every time I buy something a week or so later the next generation gets released.

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Posted: 09 December 2007 08:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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PRO~DUAL~INTEL~3/GIGAHERTZ - 09 December 2007 02:43 PM

I have at&t;and have been due for a phone upgrade for two years now. I have kept putting it off until last week. I bought the nokia 6126 and I love it but I have only had it for a few days now. I am already bored with the idea I have a camera on my phone , big deal. yeah it has some options like four different emails such as, yahoo,msn,aim and one more that I can’t think of off hand. I can’t hook it up to use my .Mac e-mail account. I think I already have another phone to throw on the self to collect dust,maybe I will donate it. I think i am going to give in and go buy the Iphone,I mean why not I have a Mac Pro Desk Top and Mac/Book to go with it, only makes sense to me. The only problem I have is that I know the second I go buy the Iphone, Apple will release a better version. I have been holding off in the Iphone because I did not want to buy the 1st generation of it. When I bought my Mac Pro twin Intel processor (4 cores) a few months later they released the quad processors intel (8-cores) that pissed me off. And that is my luck every time I buy something a week or so later the next generation gets released.

Two words: Buy sooner.

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Posted: 09 December 2007 09:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Andrew Purvis - 09 December 2007 08:36 PM
PRO~DUAL~INTEL~3/GIGAHERTZ - 09 December 2007 02:43 PM

I have at&t;and have been due for a phone upgrade for two years now. I have kept putting it off until last week. I bought the nokia 6126 and I love it but I have only had it for a few days now. I am already bored with the idea I have a camera on my phone , big deal. yeah it has some options like four different emails such as, yahoo,msn,aim and one more that I can’t think of off hand. I can’t hook it up to use my .Mac e-mail account. I think I already have another phone to throw on the self to collect dust,maybe I will donate it. I think i am going to give in and go buy the Iphone,I mean why not I have a Mac Pro Desk Top and Mac/Book to go with it, only makes sense to me. The only problem I have is that I know the second I go buy the Iphone, Apple will release a better version. I have been holding off in the Iphone because I did not want to buy the 1st generation of it. When I bought my Mac Pro twin Intel processor (4 cores) a few months later they released the quad processors intel (8-cores) that pissed me off. And that is my luck every time I buy something a week or so later the next generation gets released.

Two words: Buy sooner.

Yes I agree, buy sooner, sick of being caught in the middle.

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