mcdermd - 01 November 2005 09:31 AM

mac_the_mac - 31 October 2005 06:52 PM

The hackers who get it to work will be buying Apple applications for Mac OS X on Intel. Apple makes money from everyone.

This is a joke, right? Im going to go out on a limb here and state that the people who “hack” OS X to run on a white box surely won’t be paying for Apple products or even the OS in the first place.

I’d imagine that it would depend on how difficult the ‘hack’ really is, but you’re probably spot on. That element of the PC community probably doesn’t buy much software at CompUSA.

Apple clearly differentiates Macs from PCs by design and OS X, not speed (new dual dual-core PowerMac is the exception) and hardware bells and whistles. So, it’ll be interesting to see where Apple takes the Intel-based Macs on hardware design. There’s probably no doubt that we’ll see Intel dual dual-core PowerMacs, but that’s probably near the end of the switch roadmap.

I’m also wondering what the first few machines with Intel chips will be. iMacs? Just had a rev on those. iMac with dual-core? Mac mini? Or, perhaps another machine between the Mac mini and the iMac?

RonnieMac - 02 November 2005 09:54 AM

I’d imagine that it would depend on how difficult the ‘hack’ really is, but you’re probably spot on. That element of the PC community probably doesn’t buy much software at CompUSA.

I’ve done my share of ‘hacking’ around on Mac, Linux and PC. I build my own PCs these days because I can get it the way I want. I’ll definitely try to figure out the hacks necessary to get OS X for Intel onto a vanilla PC.

But you’re right. The folks I know, we all work on our own machines, and we do NOT buy software at CompUSA.

I read on DIGG yesterday that Apple has filed for a patent on ‘Tamper Resistent Code’ for the Macs on Intel.

That shows they’re serious about keeping Mac OS X locked down to just Mac hardware. I’m sure someone, somewhere can hack it and it’ll show up on BitTorrent, but the average user won’t go to the trouble.

Jeff Mincey - 04 November 2005 11:36 AM

I read on DIGG yesterday that Apple has filed for a patent on ‘Tamper Resistent Code’ for the Macs on Intel.

That shows they’re serious about keeping Mac OS X locked down to just Mac hardware. I’m sure someone, somewhere can hack it and it’ll show up on BitTorrent, but the average user won’t go to the trouble.

I LOVE DIGG!

any way…
People hacked Front row...apple blocked leaked versions with 10.4.3
people hacked that too!

People will always hack things, its only a matter of time till they get it on any Intel box.

An apple one though is likly, they could kill microsoft in a single swoop!

OH HOW I HOPE THEY DO!!!

Ness - 04 November 2005 11:30 PM

People hacked Front row...apple blocked leaked versions with 10.4.3
people hacked that too!

FrontRow never stopped working for me between 10.4.2 and .3

mcdermd - 07 November 2005 01:49 PM

Ness - 04 November 2005 11:30 PM

People hacked Front row...apple blocked leaked versions with 10.4.3
people hacked that too!

FrontRow never stopped working for me between 10.4.2 and .3

really?
thats cool alot of people had to make an applesript to fix it.

As long as Steve is steering the ship, OS whatever will only be bundled/supported on an apple manufactured box. I believe this since at the heart of all, Steve is a art director. The Apple he has created has never been a software company, nor a hardware manufacturer. Apple is a design firm. Remember that Steve refused to deviate from the shape of the original Macintosh - he financed and holds patents on a (then) revolutionary plastic mold injection technology simply to make the box.

The Apple II was not the ‘best’ computer out there. It looked great and worked.

The Mac is not the best computer out there (whoa, relax I only mean that one could get more raw horsepower at a lower price). OS X is not the best operating system out there (wait!! I only mean that there are more efficient UNIX overlays available). But, put them together as a Macintosh and the end is much more than the sum of the parts by design. Macintosh is unequivocally the best designed computer SYSTEM available.

Look at PIXAR. One can tell that it is a pixar production from the first visual. That is because steve recognises the importance of design. It is not the development platform that gives a pixar production it’s unique ‘Look and Feel’. It is the Art Director (Steve of course). One can tell a Mac throughout ones interaction with the system- the design speaks to you on a level outside the bits and bytes, beyond the task at hand and beyond even the physical. The Macintosh is an mental creation that exists in the place between the vision of Steve and our perception: not a box.

While it is true that someone somewhere will likely get OS whatever running on a generic unix box, it will simply be for fun, not ‘profit’. Whatever INTEL chips bring to the macintosh overall design, ‘Macintosh’ cannot exist outside Steve’s vision and that vision can only exist in the world in its totality.

There cannot be OS whatever that exists independently from Steve/Apple.

Rant “A” complete

Here’s my prediction:

Intel Macs will run OS X and run Windows/Haiku/*NIX in a virtual environment.

One of the barriers to buy a Mac will be gone - software.

Microsoft won’t stop this because every Windows license is money in their pocket.

Dell and Sony sales will slip even more to Macs.

Apple market share will increase.

Once Apple has the big chunk of sales, they’ll lower the hammer by spinning off or just plain shutting down their hardware division and then license the Mac OS, thus crushing Windows.

This process will take about 2-3 years. Maybe 2008-2009 will see the Mac OS in control of the world.